There have been times where, when I have considered sending certain emails to specific people/groups, I have asked Oberst to critique the letter, and edit it for me. Do you know what one of the most-oft suggested changes to how I talk/write is? Oberst reminds me that removing excess profanity sounds much more intelligent, and emphasizes specific uses of cursing when it is meant to be there, and so on, and so forth. Yep, even Oberst recognizes there's a time to curse, and a time not to.
"Policing #db" is, in the grand scheme of things, not the biggest issue we have ever dealt with, or ever will deal with. As far as policing #db, go ahead. I could honestly care less. As a general rule, I don't pay much attention to the channel; it's one of the reasons I have X access (as a Consul), but not auto-ops. I try and take note of specific things that I
find offensive, such as the use of a certain nick (Etah
). Blah blah, blah. I have my own interpretation of what is written in the Covenant, as does everyone else.
Instead of making it an issue of "do/do not police #db," make it an issue of "what do we/do we not police in #db." Because really, that's where this issue becomes ridiculous. Sarin and co. don't want you to use the [Expletive Deleted F-word] word; hey, it gets edited out here on the boards, oh well. They can't "edit" it out of IRC, so they try and edit it out of you. You're going to say it regardless, they recognize this. Jac codes up a script that, in essence, let's you say the [Expletive Deleted F-word] word five times in an hour, without the "big punishment" of an hour ban that comes with the sixth time (from the same word; each word you use has its own count).
All things considered, I'd say that's a decent way of handling it. What I don't like, personally, is the idea that I don't know what words Jac has scripted into the "offensive" list, and neither does most anyone else. I have asked Jac for the list, I hope to rectify this issue. Once I get the list, I will probably voice certain objections on specific words; for instance, I do know that the word "[Expletive Deleted]" is scripted. If someone is telling you "suck my [Expletive Deleted]," maybe that's worthy of a ban, maybe not. But speaking of a recent news item involving [Expletive Deleted] Cheney, however.... eh. That's kind of ridiculous. Adding the word "[Expletive Deleted]," I don't like that.
"OMG, noooooooooes! They're policing #db!" If you can't handle that, no, it's not "like it or leave it." I see it as "like it or ignore it." You can be just as much a part of the DB without #db as you can with it. I mean, seriously. When was the last time anything pertinent to the Club and your personal success happened in #db?