Gaming Servers

As copied from djb.com:

There's currently a lot of different people talking about setting up new servers for various games. The problem we've now got is so many are thinking of doing it we're soon going to end up with an abundance of servers for one or two games and not enough for the others. To my knowledge Duga, Kaiann, Venquis, Muz and Dessan are all talking about either expanding the servers they currently host or looking into new ones altogether.

I've set up a discussion on the Message Board for all of the above and whomever else is either interested or might be planning something as well that I don't know about. This way we can try and sort out who hosts what and what role to give each person's servers before everyone goes off buying things only to find out someone else has already done it.

The discussion can be found here.

It also might be useful to hear from others, even those not planning to host anything, simply to see what kind of servers everyone is most interested in seeing, in particular in terms of the non-JO/JA servers as there are quite a few ideas flying around for more specialist things like custom map BF/BF2 servers etc.

Actually, it's me, not Kaiann >:)


Going to get a JO/JA server, as my home made one won't work for most people due to lag. It's planned with rotating custom maps players will be able to vote on. If it's going to support duels or not will depend on if we get a reliable, duel configured server for JA. But it is mainly thought as CTF/team/guns server.

Also thinking of getting a BF/BF2 server eventually - can't all be on the same because BF is on windows servers here, grrrr.

As I have spoken to Duga and Dessan, both are planning to purchase JA servers within the next week. I've also heard from Xanos that.. Kaiann is going to, as well.

I would like to have each server have a set purpose that it revolves around; as we end up with 4 or even 5 JA servers, it will be quite confusing to figure them all out and who does what, when, where, and on what server.

Currently, after talking with Duga we were thinking to have his server he mainly TFFA oriented, with Muz's server as the primary duel server. This was all before Dessan informed me of his own servers.

So, if you guys like, we can work to expand JA gaming to include more of the game types that come in JA. I know that several people would like a CTF based server. So, if we have 5 servers, perhaps we could dedicate one to each desired gametype, and then the heads of the servers would work to organize competitions around them?

I am hoping that all of this can be coordinated and unified, so that we can better make things fun and diverse for everyone who wants to play. I'm thinking we could have 2 servers for just dueling 1v1s (because Muz's will only hold 10), 1 server for TFFA, 1 for CTF, and then one for just..whatever else? Of course, all servers could double as 1v1s should capacity be reached to full.

What'dya think?


EDIT: Sry ara.. posted before i saw yours.

I'd be happy to have no duels on the one I plan to get )

yeah I agree with Venquis and Ara, having a server for guns and CTF will avoid confusion and be helpful. Also Ara spoke about having custom maps for the server, think it would be helpful in case we find a map which members like even more than the ones we use right now.


~Luc

5 JA servers?

pretty overkill, in my opinion, especially considering that we're not to the point where any of the current servers are packed full yet.

I count only 2 and a half - mine will be both JO and JA, switching as needed. At least that's the plan. Then there's yours and Dugas.

The problem with having such a surplus of servers is having enough qualified people to monitor and admin them. We already lack enough admins with our current servers... 5 more would be insane. Not to mention that with each new server you open up a whole new set of problems - duels not resetting shields/health for example.

At the moment Duga's server is the only one actually set up for secure and easy use. And that's mainly due in part to Benevolent's DBMod, which unfortunately he can't recreate for JA servers (something about needing v7 of some prog )

I'm all for people wanting to help out with the extra servers but only if we keep them set to the same level. If one JA server uses one adminmod and the others use different ones it will screw up peoples gaming as they all seriously [Expletive Deleted F-word] with the gameplay. The only reason Tal server doesn't is because Ben made the shield/health resetting mod himself so it doesn't touch gameplay mechanics. If you can find a single mod that all people agree on and get it uploaded and working on each server than you won't have a problem... but such things are easier said than done.

Also would like to quickly point out that custom mods/maps aren't allowed to be used during Vendettas. That's part of the Rites of Combat - it keeps things fair for everyone playing and saves on headaches. Having to download a new map anytime you want to jump on a server is very annoying.

Well thats part of the advantage of having more than one server as you can have a custom-map server for casual periods and still have a regular-map server for Vendetta use.

In respect of Muz's point about not having enough traffic, thats true, however we currently have a few allied clubs wanting to share facilities, so if that ends up happening we might find more people using them on a regular basis I guess.

I think at the very least we want to be looking at having the following clearly defined:-

1 JA Duel Server
1 JA Team Server
1 JO Duel Server
1 JO Team Server
1 BF Server
1 BF2 Server

Obviously some of these could double up, although there seem to be so many willing hosts that we could more or less stick most on separate servers.

I think those are the most important areas to cover. I often see newer members uncertain which server to use, so it would be good if we made the servers clearly defined, rather than just had JA Server #1, JA Server #2, etc. It would probably help encourage more team gaming as well, which I gather is something quite a few people want more of, by not having people who want to duel complain that someone wants to change the game mode or whatever.

The BF2 server isn't being used right. It's been set up just for fun but we can't play for competition on it ...so nothing really makes us want to go in there since there are better, more popular servers. That and the name is a little obscure...it would help if it was actually had the full name, or initials, or the club in it.

Perhaps you can look into ways of reading the stats and judging medals and the like.

Well, as an active gamer, I'm all for more than one server. Especially for JA and BF/BF2. I've seen many times during SIT or ICTE when the SA server was full or nearly full for hours at a time.

Having differrent maps available would be cool too, offer a bit of variety for gaming in between the feuds and wars. I also agree that it would be nice to have servers set up for team matches as well as some for single matches, again, it offers more variety for everyone.

I do miss the Academy map from the old SA server, with the ability to have the NPC bots. They offered great training practice when no one else was on the server, and I'll miss not having them to use now.

Our BF 2 server needs, most of all, a password to stop lamers not part of the club from getting in. It's about impossible to play as it is now.

BTW, the "no custom maps" stuff for vendettas is really not needed. If both parties agree on a custom map, then that should be fine. One of the reasons I avoid playing lots of vendetta games is because of this, and same can be said for a handful of others. So who really cares if we use a custom map? >:)

Asides, the regular maps will be part of any server, so it's not like it wouldn't be used during vendettas.

The issue with the duels was handled ok on the SA server. Same could likely be done for any other JA server. Although the teams ervers would really not need to bother about it.

Has anyone in the group every thought of a Republic Commando Server?
Were talking about multiple JA/JO servers...and forgetting one other platform. This might also help with getting new members here, and get the other DB members back playing this game.

Also.....are the servers going to be "Pure" or not.. I personally dont want people flocking in droves with complaints of Cheating........and a "Pure" server will cure this.

The setup and configuration of Muz's server should be happening within the next 2 to 3 days - i need to get with some people to set it up...

I plan for it to make use of the latest JA+, but have a configuration to nullify the BS random damage factor that the SA server had.

Bleh..got to get to it.

I think it would be wrong to make the BF2 server "pure". There aren't enough members who play BF2 as it is and it can be a good source of recruitment. It's more of a fun blast too, unlike JO/JA that needs to remain pure.

That's another problem with having custom maps, etc... Usually makes it easier for people to join freely if it's Unpure which, like Smoke said, causes a lot of headaches

Any requests on changing the BF2 server should be directed to me. I've never heard anything up until this point about needs to change it up -- so, either post suggestions here or send them my way. Give specifics. I'm open to change there.

One thing I will say is that unless it's for a requested period of time, the server will remain open to the public. An admin can change that for special times, but the server does bring traffic to the site (100 unique visitors last month), so having it closed all the time isn't as fruitfull.

As for the name, I can change it now that 1.1 is installed. There was a character limit on the old version of the game controls.

Jac

Adding servers may seem attractive and all, but price comes into play here. I know from experience that it isn't cheap to support these things, the cost adds up over time. While having a dedicated server for duels and a dedicated server for team stuff is cool, do we (and can we) want to shoulder the costs?

The price shouldn't be a problem. It looks like a number of generous people are trying to start new servers anyway (but I'm sure they'd be delighted with a donation to help), and we're discussing cutting it the number down or spreading the costs over servers that we need rather than want.

I think fresh's point is that there is no sense in a bunch of people going off and paying for servers that no one will use. The effort needs to be coordinated with a final goal in mind. What Goat said as a rough outline is a good starting block for where we need to be going. We need to say that "the server requirements for the DB are x, y and z." From there, we fill those requirements. This is the better alternative to everyone just starting up servers when we don't know what the end goal is.

I would rather not have a few people pay for the many. There are plenty of people willing to donate for the DB -- it just needs to be coordinated. I have the system set up already for the BFII server and the domain name registations. I would like efforts coordinated centrally and donations funneled through the DB account so that we keep good track of who is spending what.

Jac

Looking at what Rasilvenaira said about high traffic during gaming nights I think thats an example of how it would be better for us to fuel resources (i.e. money) into one high capacity server rather than lots of smaller ones. I'm not sure what the limit on a JA server is but I think the main dueling server needs to be able to support as many people as possible.

I prefer the BF2 server being public... the DB doesn't get enough people play it otherwise and it generates quite a lot of recruits. Having a second private BF2 server might make sense but, again, that means more money. I haven't ever used it myself (as for some reason I couldn't find it in the list) but if the name is obscure then I suppose that might be worth changing.

I'd not be against an RC server. Given how quickly people join when you're trying to have a match it'd be a nice recruitment tool if nothing else. Like with BF2 though it needs the funds, so ultimately depends how many people want to pay. I'd rather see an RC server and a couple of BF2 servers though than a dozen different JA servers. I'm unsure how EAW MP works either... so I don't know whether we should be talking about looking into a server for that?

Arania's mention of a game-change server is interesting, how dynamic can that be? As the obvious thing to do would be stick BF/BF2 on the same server, and the same with RC/EAW or something.

Well really what we need is to all pitch in and buy one or two dedicated servers. With dedicated servers we would be able to host what ever games we wanted, when we wanted. Think of it like your personal computer sitting in a datacenter compleately under your control. This server would allow us to run anything we needed for the DB even things not gaming related.

Many of you will remember my dedicated server I had awile back. It ran 3 JA servers, DB radio, dbb0t, and hosted about 4-5 sites for the DB. Now my server has died do to the fact that the hosting company I rented from went under, but I belive that if we all pitch in together on this we can get a very nice one (Intel Xeon 3.8 GHz duel processer or such) that would be able to host anything the DB needed at any time, and remember we're talking about hosting many game servers at once here (this single server should be able to host around 5-7 servers at one time). Also I would beleive that would consolidate funds a little better.

-Dessan

That's a good idea actually. What kind of cost are we looking at?

I suppose its like most things, that eventually it becomes more cost effective to buy in bulk rather than order individually, so a dedicated server might be a better idea than lots of individual subscriptions.

I've seen dedicated servers that run as low as a hundred a month... that's the equivalent of 5 JA servers, basically.

whether or not the specs on that number would be reasonable or not is a seperate matter. What we'd probably need would run about 150/month.

but this does have the benefit of customizability, and other things that aren't alive right now...like DBRadio, etc.

the question is whether or not the traffic/use warrants it. that's 30 people donating 5 bucks apiece.

Well when the radio is operational and we actualy DJ its use is grand, plus this server could host a few sites (ie obbie.org etc that are down since mine died) plus the games, plus dbb0t, plus pretty much anything we want that can be run on Linux... I think its worth it.

-dessan

AFAIK BF and BF2 can't be run on Linux servers though, so we'd need to do something else for those still.

well, the question isn't matter of usefulness as much as it is a question of use vs. cost ratio. We can *find* uses for it, but is it worth the expenditure?

$150/month is a bit high for the current DB budget, I'm guessing... So we may have to do some serious fundraising.

So, that's one of the biggest things to consider.

http://www.hypernia.net/game_servers/standard.html

When we had this discussion at the time we decided to buy the BFII server, that was the site that I found that I considered our dream server. It's $150 a month, but we can run any game on it and we can run multiple games on it. It's a pretty cutting edge server as far as hardware goes. It can run both Windows and Linux games.

Now, let me give you guys a brief financial synopsis. Since November 3rd, since I started collecting donations, we have raised $459.42. That's with me making one call for donations and having a link in the menu to the donors page. Since then we have spent $311.52. $120 on domain name registrations, and the rest for the BFII server for 6 months (which we are still prepaid for 2 months).

From what I know, we have other people spending a combined $70-80 a month on private servers.

Now, assuming we want to have a dedicated server that is fast, reliable, has the games we want and has the support we will need, I don't think $150 is unreasonable per month. We can probably get it maybe for $125 at the specs we need -- but rember that speed and reliability are important on a gaming server.

That means we need to raise $1800 a year for the gaming server, plus 90 more for domain name registrations. So $1900 a year.

Personally, I can't fork out any more money per month -- the webserver hosting is as much as I can afford for now. I know there are some people who have offered to donate, but one-time donations are not going to cut it for a big gaming server like this. We need to have committed donations, and we need to make sure that we can keep this going for a while.

So, the main question is, are the people who are contributing monthly to the gaming servers now willing to comingle funds in the DB account for a central server and are more people willing to donate?

To sum it all up -- basically as the stuff goes, getting a central server is absolutely ideal, but we would need to double our monthly intake.

I'd recommend dropping the BF2 server then just to save money to do all these other wonderful things. Being a new game it costs too much, plus players simply hosting games on a decent broadband connection get quite good results.

How much are the individual servers? If we've currently got the BF2 one, Duga's JO one, Duga's planned JA one, Muz's JA one and Arania's one that must already be coming out to quite a lot.

How much could we push a dedicated server? It might be worth seeing if any of the allied clubs would be interested in sharing it and so helping fund it. If it can host a dozen games at once I doubt we'd need to be using the whole thing all the time, as we might only need 5 or 6 servers for the various games, so half of it would be going to waste. It depends how much traffic it could take though I guess.

I suppose Dessan's point about using it for site hosting is a consideration as well, as if we could, say, use it to host all the Clan sites or something then we'd possibly be getting our value for money that way. For example I currently pay £200-300 ($500) or something each year for the CNS site, so would be able to front that for the gaming server if it meant us being able to shift some of the Clan stuff there instead.

*shrugs*

Just depends what we can do with it and how flexible we want to be I guess.

Duga can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he has a 12 man JO server from Art of War that is $26.40 Monthly. I think the JA server would be a couple bucks cheaper.

The DB is paying out ~32 a month for the BFii server

Muz is putting out ~20 a month for the new JA server

Not sure what ara is paying. Let's assume $20

That there is $120 a month in expenses.

The server at hypernia can support 75 players at a time split among any number of running games. I doubt we will get that much a lot of the time, but we can leave games running to bring people to our site too. I think that having other clubs join in would be good, but I would also like the DB to retain primary practical and financial control. I've seen enough joint ventures with clubs not go well just activity wise -- I'd hat efor us to have a tough situation when money comes in play.

Is Ara actually renting a server or just hosting her own like before? Also, seeing as the majority of DB gamers seem to be North American euro servers would be a bad idea.

We are talking about real servers. And ping times to decent Euro servers are much better for US folks than vice versa. Even on Ara's hosting, we've seen a lot of US players with <200 while the other way round you can be lucky to have 250

I can spend a steady 20 bucks a month for donations for a big dedicated box, rather than on the JA server than i got now. Just let me know where to put the money...

and dropping the 'newest SW game' BF2 from our servers would be a critical error. As Jac said before, it brings us 100 new visitors to our site a month. Plues, we need to support the new games as much as, if not more than we support the old.

and dropping the 'newest SW game' BF2 from our servers would be a critical error.  As Jac said before, it brings us 100 new visitors to our site a month.  Plues, we need to support the new games as much as, if not more than we support the old.


I'd love to keep it, and I'd be disappointed if it went, but I was simply saying that if you have to priorise it would be the first to go in my mind.

Also, with BF2 being so good at hosting games it may be a solution to have someone generious enough to simply use their home pc and good net connection to be a dedicated server. I'll research into this as I know a couple of people who do this, and don't lose the use of their PC or connection.

I was actually considering do it when I move house. I'll probably have a spare PC that is minimum spec and a better net connection than I have now. But this is pie in the sky until I actually do it.

Pasted below are the numbers depicting the gamers of the DB who have played in a gaming night or ICTE since March 1st through to now and what game they play. Unsurprisingly Jedi Academy is the most played game followed by Jedi Outcast. As you guys are discussing what to do with the current server situation these numbers are fairly important.

Empire at War, the newest game released has a very low number of players. Fortunately this is a game where having a server dedicated for hosting is not needed. Player hosts would work fine with this game so there should be no issue here.

Republic Commando is in the same boat more or less. Too few people play the game, a server would be overkill. The few who do seem to get along fine just hosting games for themselves.

Battlefront II seems to be the hot topic according to the MB posts from you guys. But it's the third least played game currently. And of those people playing it most don't even use the server. Muz and Jac have both mentioned keeping it open because it nets us new recruits... how can that be? If it were true we'd have a lot of people playing BF2. We don't so obviously we're not getting many BF2 recruits. For the 32 dollars it's costing the DB (or Jac) it's just not worth it. Having it hasn't increased the amount of people playing BF2, and those people that do play will be able to continue on just as easily hosting themselves.

Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast. These are the two big ones that get the biggest chunk of people playing. In the last 2-3 months over 40 different people have played matches in JA. That's a lot. The best idea would be to have a Euro and NA server each for both games. At the moment the Taldryan server Duga is hosting is working fine. I have yet to see people waiting in line to get in. Having another server just for duels or team gaming is overkill. Having a new euro-based server would lighten the load and allow people to play where they have the better ping. Having one dedicated server for multiple games will end up pissing up one group or the other depending on where it is.

Jedi Academy would benefit from having two NA servers and one Euro one. If you guys do decide to lose the BF2 server, that money could then be used for the second JA server. Muz is already hosting one JA server and Dessan has said he'd host another. I'd assume they'll both stick to NA as I believe that's where they're both located (just guessing on that though) Having JA with multiple servers will also allow you to separate between duels and teams/guns... though from what I've seen and heard very few people play JA guns. Probably be best to stick with duels and let people vote to change it.


Here's the rundown on who would be hosting what. I think having each person host their own will be a lot easier than getting people to pay towards something they won't be in control of.

Duga = NA JO Server
Muz - NA JA Server
Arania - Europe JA/JO Server (undecided last I saw)
DB - Second Euro JO/JA Server (depending on Ara)
Dessan - Second NA JA Server

Well I seem to be lacking someone who can upload this for me so I'll just post the numbers:

EaW - 8
RC - 4
BF2 - 11
JA - 40+ (got tired of counting)
JO - 34
BF - 6
XWA/XvT - 10

Shadow makes some good points on the server conundrum. I think though, that this is less of an issue of who owns what games as it is who and why do people play those games. Perhaps the JA/JO numbers are so high because they give the best medals for the person's time.

http://www.darkjedibrotherhood.com/dbjedi/....asp?Type=Games

Keep those numbers in mind too. The BFII numbers aren't far behind the JA numbers atm.

As for people more willing to host their own then trust in the group, I think Shad is spot on there. It's easier to have control and justify the cost of "my server" than it is to donate to "his server"

Jac

That could be true... though I think people who purchase a game like JO/JA play MP more than the people with BF2. Same with RC. A lot of people loved the SP but didn't like the MP.

It'd take some doing but I'm sure you could give awarding more/better medals for playing BF2/EaW on a trial basis. Though I think it's been done... to a limited extent. They've tried double CFs and even Novae tourneys and I don't think any more people played. Would have to looked at better though.

Okay, a bit of information here from me since some has been mentioned, others not..

Taldryan JO Server
72.9.229.14:27960 Talpwnz
Been setup with the current host since March when Kir's server went under. 12 player max, shield/health reset for duels, infin. bryar ammo. Simple, same setup as we've had for a JO Server for more than a year now. I paid for six months, $168.30, so that is set until September something.

Antei Gaming Server
72.9.229.66:27676 DBpwnz
After the SA Server went down, I figured I'd possibly get another one with my current host, good times with them so far. After talking to a few folks, I went ahead with it and it was activated this past weekend. The JA Server has a 10 player max set, and that's actually about it right now. It needs work, but I'm waiting to see how Muz's Server looks as soon as that is setup this week. I paid for six months as well, JA is cheaper monthly than JO and I got a good deal for six months. Was $89.54 and that is set until November sometime.

Right now we have what, 1 JO Server, 2 JA Servers, and a BF2 Server that are active in one form or another?

My two cents on adding, some have pointed out we don't need too many servers, which is true. When to stop is the problem. Lots of possibilities mentioned already. I'm not sure about the dedicated server stuff, if it will be better to switch to something like that or just add on to what we have now.

I know we don't need a EaW server for sure. I've played a good deal of it and it's very simple to setup 1vs1 to even 3vs3 with someone hosting a game. Very simple, easy to do. Alot of mixed feedback on the BF2 Server. I guess I like the fact it get people to visit us and hopefully join us. I know some have mentioned RC either here or elsewhere, and if there are enough for that sure. I thought it was pretty simple to easily connect like in EaW, but the no pass isn't so fun. A server would help possibly bring in new people, but that's a lot of money just to advertise in game. More JO/JA Servers? Maybe? You know I've never seen the JO Server full so I don't see a big push there, unless someone wants to have a good server for custom things and what not. JA is more popular, just need to figure out how many we need. SA worked by it self for a long time, although it would fill up at times and it would be very hard to do any kind of team play in that sort of setup. With at least two JA Servers, that would help that problem. I just think seeing 10-12 Servers up, several for each game might be extreme.

People didn't play JA as much as JO originally. Then eventually the JO players were forced to accept it and make the switch because the JO community dried up. The same thing happen with XVT and XWA.

Now we come to BF. The longer we procrastinate absorbing BF fully the older BF will be when we finally are forced to switch. For that reason a BF/2 server is a necessity that we aren't able to lose. The more BF/2 players we hold onto now the better the DB will be in the future when people stop playing JA.

Is Ara actually renting a server or just hosting her own like before? Also, seeing as the majority of DB gamers seem to be North American euro servers would be a bad idea.



I've been resigned to play on US servers my whole time in the DB and it doesn't cause any problems. Look at games like World of Warcraft, I've never seen any complaints that US players playing on EU servers or vice versa affects gameplay at all. The quality of the server and your connection affects lag much more than the location.

It comes down to money... German hosted dedicated servers are about $100 whereas American ones are $150. For what would affect your ping no more than a rainy day I think saving $500 a year is worth it.

Anyway, you could use the $500 you save to hire a US-based JA server if its really that much of a problem.

Here's the rundown on who would be hosting what. I think having each person host their own will be a lot easier than getting people to pay towards something they won't be in control of.

Duga = NA JO Server
Muz - NA JA Server
Arania - Europe JA/JO Server (undecided last I saw)
DB - Second Euro JO/JA Server (depending on Ara)
Dessan - Second NA JA Server

Those five people would still need members of the DB to make donations so the problem of people being willing to pay for something that isn't theirs still exists.

If anything I'd rather be donating my money to one universal server that I can be more certain of where the money is going to than to five different people where it would be much easier for money to just go astray.

well, I can afford 20/month as a donation to the DB... I'm just spending it on the JA server now. God knows that I know prize little about running a server.

$1900 / 12 months = a little less than $160 a month

So, we need 7 other people like me to step up... more if we can manage, as servers will often give a discount for pre-paying.

I think BF2 CTF is still a resource that hasn't been fully exploited. The usual problem is with going onto our public server is that we would get outside lamers that would tip the balance and ruin the game. Why not just have a private BF2 server where people that do play BF2 can do so without outside interference? It would greatly help with BF2-related competitions. Also...it would help bring the focus back to the game away from the overpopulated and sometimes boring passtime of JO/JA.

If this has been mentioned before, I apologize for bringing it up again. (I didn't want to go through everything, I skimmed. )

tarax, no offense but I don't agree with anything you said :w00t:

As I've said, if you want a private game of BF2 then hosting it yourself produces pretty good results. Really, both types of server would be nice, for new maps in a private server, but not needed yet. But the number of players are slowly rising.

We don't want to turn in the EH where we're so focused out ourselves and not the scene outside that we keep on snobbishly playing with each other and not getting any new blood.

BF2 also has a pretty good ratio of good people/lamers. Perhaps giving a few of the more active members moderator rights to ban folk.

I'd prefer a server with a mix of game modes. Conquest > CTF. But a little consideration into the quality of missions (Felucia must burn!!!). Plus the Ewok and Wampa hunt missions rock ...although not the sandpeople one.

I'd like to see both a JO and a JA server for the Europeans as well. I agree a dedicated server able to switch between games or even hold 2 at a time would be the ideal thing.

Still, servers should have a main purpose, as in one for duelling and one more for guns and team. Seeing how with a good server the pings really are less of a problem (I usually connect to the Tally server fine) this would mainly stop arguments about who changes to what server if some want to duel and some want to team.

I'd also very much like a modded BF/BF2 server but I do not think enough people play mods, and if so we can just connect to each other.

One Linux server is the best choice at the moment. There is a Linux version of every gameserver listed here including BF2. Also as I have pointed out before it can handle the Radio and TeamSpeak servers, plus dbb0t's hosting, also even with the games/radio/and teamspeak it could host at least 10-15 sites. Also if you give me the budget we're looking at I can find the best deal possible, including taking things into account like location and uplink speeds to europe. No matter which way we went be it widows or Linux I would be able to get everything running and create a nice web interface to allow the server administrators to restart/stop/start each game and or service such as teamspeak, plus we would be able to create nice stats for each game, as well as allow access to the logs when needed, lastly we could have the server email the correct people when there is an error with the server.

-Dess

I don't think there is a Linux server for SW Battlefront 2. Battlefield 2 there is.

I'd be happy to make a server for Republic Commando, the wuestion is what do you want me to call it. It will be a dedicated server and I want suggestions on what it should be called, how many player, should it be CTF or TD etc. Please send suggestions at shon950@hotmail.com or right here.

I'd be happy to make a server for Republic Commando, the wuestion is what do you want me to call it. It will be a dedicated server and I want suggestions on what it should be called, how many player, should it be CTF or TD etc. Please send suggestions at shon950@hotmail.com or right here.


Shonen thats a very nice offer but i don't think you fully understand what we are talking about, we need a server located in a datacenter that will be fully dedicated for our gaming uses on an extreamly fast connection.

Ok sorry